Violin Exercises: Maia Bang Violin Method
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Violin Exercises: Maia Bang Violin Method
The More Advanced Studies book picks up where Elementary Rudiments leaves off. It incorporates many original exercises and suggestions by Leopold Auer such as exercises for developing independence of the fingers and flexibility of the wrist. This book also features an in depth explanation of scales, exercises, techniques, and much more. Also included is a short history of the violin and its famous makers and players. This volume is available in English and Spanish.
Since then I found no evidences of someone mentioning this method here, or in all the internet. It's from 1914, so I consider it being relatively new.I gave it a try (I've read it from start to finish and played all the 4 parts of book 1, all about 1st position) and I think it's a wonderful method, in the line of Maia Bang, but teaching hand shapes in specific order, instead of going through the circle of fifths like Bang's method.I like the fact Kuchler gives directions of what to study alongside each part, when to start Wohlfardt, Sitt, etc.Anyone else think his Violin Method is a good one?Do you think 200 pages just for 1st position is a bit too much? (ok, the 1st volume explain a lot about how to hold the violin, etc. but i'm interested in the practical part - the exercises!)I like to study everything 1st pos. have to give before start on higher positions, so i love this kind of method.Any thoughts in general about Kuchler's Violin Method?And an important question: do you know other methods who uses the "hand shapes" route?I only saw this one, and the ones from Sevcik, Joachim, and Eberhardt (who calls his method "semitone based" but book 1 is so boring in my opinion).I really like this "hand-shape" / "semitone" method of teaching and like to know more books with this!I teach some students and use this method a lot!(oh, and not so important question: do you know any other method like Maia Bang's Books? (Start with 1# and add more #'s until all sharps are covered, then later start with 1b and add more later, going through the circle of fifth in order)Thanks in advance.I'm from Brazil, so sorry the mistakes! Tweet !function(d,s,id)var js,fjs=d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0],p=/^http:/.test(d.location)?'http':'https';if(!d.getElementById(id))js=d.createElement(s);js.id=id;js.src=p+'://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js';fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js,fjs);(document, 'script', 'twitter-wjs');googletag.cmd.push(function() googletag.display('div-gpt-ad-1445120298060-0'); ); Replies (4)Carmen TanzioJune 3, 2021, 5:51 PM Maia Bang's writings I believe are based on the teachings of Leopold Auer. There are a series of graded violin books still published under Auer's name, although I am not sure just how much input he had into what is contained in those books. I learned on Books 1 thru 3 and still like to use the scale and bowing exercises in book 3.Kuchler does a good job introducing various adornments as one progresses and many of the exercises have a teacher part to complement the student part like the Auer books.If it gets you playing music, then it is a success. Nuuska M.Edited: June 3, 2021, 11:39 PM In the German speaking part of the world, the Doflein books are quite popular. It also works with handshapes a lot - it even starts with introducing the four basic shapes one by one, and continues mentioning which handshapes is being used for the actual exercise. (I only know book one since this is what my son was started on, but it seems to be quite elaborate and straight forward also in the following books.)It is in print and under copyright, but AFAIK it is only available in German and English. =Doflein&ref=nb_sb_nossHope this helps. Maurizio CassandraJune 4, 2021, 2:52 AM In Italy the most famous method is Alberto Curci..Four books only in 1st position(also semitone system),than other 2 big books for 2-3-4-and 5th position..I don't know Kucler 's method,i will see on internet jean dubuissonJune 4, 2021, 8:31 AM hi Diego, sure, Kuchler is a good solid method, and you can't do wrong to rely on it. by the way Kuchler also wrote four very pleasant student concertinos, I remember playing opus 15 when I was a child. googletag.cmd.push(function() googletag.display('div-gpt-ad-1445120547957-0'); ); This discussion has been archived and is no longer accepting responses.
August 6, 2007 at 07:38 PM I have very extensive experience learning from and teaching the Auer Method books. It is unfortunate how many methods are not as thorough as these. The method books (if taught properly) is like an intensive olympic-style training boot camp for basic violin technique. After all, it was Leopold Auer who brought the world Heifetz, Milstein, Elman, etc.
Book 1 allows you to learn quality of tone, different bow and rhythm strokes all on the open strings. My former teacher Ivry Gitlis made me do all these long, sustained bow exercises in Auer Book 1 to develop a very good edge technique. He had me work with and observe figure skaters so I can try to understand and develop the concept of a smooth, seamless edge. I've never thought of it this way before, but Gitlis felt that violinists could learn a tremendous amount from figure skaters especially in the concepts of outside and inside edges. (outside edge = tilting violin bow slightly towards the finger board; inside edge = tilting violin bow slightly towards the bridge).
I have a 6 year old student right now (only has been learning violin less than 1 year and started with me as his 1st teacher) originaly from Venezuela who is a perfectionist and very analytical. He is extremely detailed and self-motivated in his practice sessions. He practices 4-5 hours/day after school at his own will. (He can be home sick with a fever/flu and still be seen practicing away at his violin. This summer, he went on a trip to Disney World and took his violin with him and got up everyday at 6 am and practiced for 3 hrs before having breakfast and enjoying the rides at Disney). I reassure everyone that his parents are not stage parents and they just love and support his love affair with the violin. The way he practices the Auer exercises is that he tries to strive for "5 perfect" times on each exercise at 5 different metronome markings (from slow, medium, and fast range). Therefore, if done thoroughly and perfectly, he gets in about 25-30 good practice sessions on each exercise per day. Honestly, he does it on his own will. I don't force him to do it this way, but he is a perfectionist so he settles for nothing less. Even if I am fully satisfied with his performances at the lessons, he still searches for more perfection. He so demanding on himself that he has broken down into tears at times. I have to give him a reality check and help him realize that he's far beyond his years in his achievements and that I'm so happy and proud that he's trying his best! (It is scary when a student is more self-critical than the teacher).
I first started this boy on Essential Elements for Strings (because I didn't want him to be bored or scared by the Auer Books). My plan was to gradually give him the Auer exercises in small dosages. But it turned out he was bored to death with the Essential Elements book so we tried switching full time to the Auer Books and he has not put down the violin ever since.
I think the Auer books made a real big difference in how fast he progressed. He finished the first 3 books of Suzuki in less than 3 months after finishing the 1st two books of Auer. The school music teachers asked him what was his "secret" to the progress and we say that it was the rigorous training program written by Leopold Auer. His father just bought him a wonderful modern italian violin so he sounds great and improved his playing.
August 7, 2007 at 02:33 AM Thank you for taking time to respond. I have another question, if I may. I am an adult of 38 years of age and have been taking violin lessons for about 6 months now, and started Suzuki about 4 months ago. I just finished Suzuki Book 1 and am wondering if this is this a good time to consider beginning the Auer series? Please let me know your thoughts on this when you get a chance. Thanks again.
Auer Book 8: is a summary book for you to apply some of the things you learned to difficult passages in various violin repertoire including Paganini, Ernst, Spohr, etc. I do feel that the jump from Book 7 to 8 is a bit unreasonably huge.
Sun-Duk, this is exactly how my teacher describes my approach to the violin...exactly! I analyze everything down to the finest detail and when it comes to the violin I am very definitely a perfectionist.
P.S. I heard a clip of you doing Tambourin Chinois on cd baby.com through violinist.com. I hear influences of Heifetz and Friedman in your playing. I was impressed with the quality of the execution and articulation. You're a very impressive player!
Perhaps Auer, like many top violinists, was left-handed? Suzuki was, which made him a wonderful analyst of bowing, but his left hand was agile but unstructured (and often out of tune!) Auer's Vol.1 is great for the more advanced student, and maybe for a few precocious youngsters older than their years..
March 23, 2017 at 03:23 AM Where we are (Victoria, BC), some of the best young violinists all started Suzuki at very young age and went on winning all sorts of national and international competitions; e.g., Nikki Chooi and Timmy Chooi (both Curtis graduates, Nikki is now the concertmaster of NY Met Opera, Timmy is a busy international concertizing soloist). Even my teacher (who doesn't teach Suzuki) is sending her little twins to a Suzuki teacher to start their violin lessons.
March 24, 2017 at 02:21 AM It's worth noting that Suzuki never intended for students to play only repertoire. He wrote two etude books himself that are intended to be used with the Method -- the Quint Etudes and the Position Etudes -- plus there are little exercises (like the tonalization exercise) in the repertoire books. As far as I know, formal Suzuki teacher training also teaches a bunch of little exercises (both with the violin and away from the violin) to be used in developing certain techniques. 041b061a72